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part thirty nine



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(Anonymous) 2013-07-15 07:00 pm (UTC)(link)
serious question, anons.

do you think that you are a goodfic writer? do you think you write good fic?

to supplement this, please link an example of what you consider to be good fic. it can be someone else's fic or even yours! we'd never know anyway.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-15 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
no lol i'm not delusional enough to think i'm good but i do think i am an average/mediocre writer. i have no problems coming up with ideas but i don't think my execution is handled all that well. there are so many elements that i can improve on.

i don't ever save fic (unless it's a wip and i want to see if it gets completed) but this is an example of what i think is good fic (http://keiramarcos.com/star-trek/tangled-destinies-ks/). obviously it's star trek fic and is very very long, but the writer really did a good job. i don't remember if i ever finished it, but the fact that i even remember it is gj in my opinion.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-15 07:23 pm (UTC)(link)
why do you say that you're average/mediocre? what do your readers think/comment on your work?

from my own experience, i always thought i was substantially subpar compared to my favorite fic writers, but the response i got from my readers was generally more supportive than that.

holy what, around 150k worth of fic omg....

(Anonymous) 2013-07-15 07:29 pm (UTC)(link)
oh i don't really compare my writing against what comments i receive say - i compare it to the writing resource blogs i follow and what they say about writing. idk i guess i look more into writing as a story telling device master scientific formula of ultimate possibilities. aka what the hell am i even talking about i like the technical aspect and i guess i should focus more on the romantic aspect of writing. aka what the hell am i talking about.

it's a good fic but it's really really really really long (which is why i don't think i ever finished it lol)

(Anonymous) 2013-07-15 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)
so, do you see yourself as mediocre for fic standards or general lit standards? because obvs there's a difference between the two. which isn't to say that fic writing can't hold up to literary standards, but i think it's generally accepted that there's a lower standard for fic.

star trek fandom is replete with talented writers capable of mind bogglingly lol fic. how do they do it....

(Anonymous) 2013-07-15 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
if i was going to hold my fic to a lit standard i'd prob have to say poor lol bc i've only written 2 that i consider to have a good intro to conclusion storyline, while the rest are just stand alone stories. i'm still standing with mediocre for fic writing bc i guess i do compare the things i've written to writers outside the kpop fandom that have more experience than i do and i admire lots of aspects in their writing that i see myself lacking when i edit and reread my writing. honestly i've even written out a list of things i should improve on gradually as i continue to write (for however long that will be!)

(Anonymous) 2013-07-15 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
that's a really great idea, anon! i think i should do the same lol

also, you sound a lot more prolific than i ever was, so i tip my hat off to you for not settling for what you know you can do and for always trying to be better.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-15 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)
why would it be delusion to think that you are good? bec you aren't good? everyone have things they can improve on. i think it might as well be delusional to say that you aren't good, bec we can be so good at bringing ourselves down. "good" is such a loose term lmao, it's about comparison and general mindset in life and, idk, i think one should be more careful with calling themselves not good. idk what writing resource blogs you follow but maybe you should be careful with using that as your frame of reference?

(Anonymous) 2013-07-15 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
woah i didn't think that saying how i perceive my own writing would incite such passion! it's just how i personally feel and it's exactly like you said about how it's a loose term. my definition of good probably isn't the same as someone elses and i'm not really good at explaining how i view it - unfortunately i'll never be able to give you a straight answer. and i don't feel myself by saying that i'm an average writer is putting myself down lol it's actually the opposite and is helping me to improve myself! maybe i am a backwards thinker, but i'm glad that you have such thoughts on this subject.
the writing resource blogs that i follow are resource blogs in which they explain things about writing. they are great tools lol i've never taken a creative writing class in my life this is new to me :)

(Anonymous) 2013-07-15 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
i'm just sad that a lot of ppl think that they're bad when they can get a brighter outlook by just adjusting their standards lmao. i think being confident in yourself, even just a little bit, is very important, especially so for the sake of having the strength to keep improving. but if you feel that you have that anyway, then that's great lol.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-15 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
yes confidence in writing is important and great! but i sort of feel like that comes over time. i think some people who write get discouraged easily when they don't get responses. which yes is sad (more so bc kpop fic doesn't really get a lot of comments in the first place). but if you really enjoy writing and have fun with it you continue on and try to fix your mistakes. lord my first fic was a mess and all over the place it deserves a shelf of it's own. i fixed my flops from that fic and i think my work has improved a lot! you can always start over and try again. i'm not ashamed of my bad work as embarrassing as it is it has taught me something lol hopefully other writers can have a positive mindset

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-15 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)
honestly yeah. i doubt myself a lot and have periods of rly low self-confidence but at the same time i can think i'm awesome lol. i feel that i am a 'solid' writer so to speak. then again part of why i like my writing is probably because i write things and have a writing style that i enjoy and prefer. others might not at all think i'm that good, but i don't think they'd think i suck either. that's what the 'solidness' is about. IDK i even making sense? i feel bad for being cocky even if we're all anon u_____u

(Anonymous) 2013-07-15 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)
what do you consider to be goodfic, anon? :)

(Anonymous) 2013-07-15 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
i don't read fic so i can't really give an example. partially bec concentration issues + i read rly slow and there's other things i'd rather spend my time on. but even with fics i enjoy i always manage to find something they could have improved and tbh i sort of tend to stay away from goodfic writers and bnfs bec i don't like feeling inferior lol :I i can get so bitter and try to pick out all the small bad points from a good fic that i feel it's not rly worth it.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-15 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
totally get you on the inferiority thing, but i feel like reading superior work has only improved me as a writer :) lol

(Anonymous) 2013-07-15 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
i know. i'm sure i could learn loads from reading more and reading talented peoples writing. and i hate that i can't stop comparing myself to other people and that i can't just let other people be good at something without feeling bad about myself. i feel that right now i just want to be alone and do my own thing and not think about what others are doing.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-15 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't consider myself a goodfic writer, but I don't think I write badfic. I actually think a few of my fics are pretty good (and this takes a lot from me cause I think nothing I do/produce is good) but I guess I mostly dont consider myself a goodfic writer because I don't get the kind of comments, or have people talking about my fic, like known goodfic writers do? does that make sense, idek ;;

I don't have any specific fic links for her but I consider coyotecolored a goodfic writer!
and this shinee fic is an example of a fic I think is good and really enjoyed (and how I wish I could write): http://pateshie.livejournal.com/4617.html

(Anonymous) 2013-07-15 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
aww, anon i totally get you!! tbh, i only figured out that people considered me to be a good writer because of the meme. i got like maybe six-seven comments on average for my fic and the comments, while positive, were hardly ever substantial. that's always been one of the things i hated about kfic fandom bleh

oooh, thanks for linking that pateshie fic anon! i miss shinee goodfic ;__;

(Anonymous) 2013-07-15 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I always wish I wrote the kind of fics people like to talk about/freak out over, but I write so rarely and I guess people just forget about me?
I've gotten some really nice and positive comments on fics in the past, but I don't get mentioned on meme, so I have no idea if other people consider me good, bad or mediocre. (I really hope I'm not mediocre though ;;)
I wish there were more substantial comments to be had, too! I appreciate any comments I get, as they're so rare, but I always try to leave somewhat substantial comments myself for people!

you're welcome, anon! I've gotten into shinee recently so I've been working my way through a lot of old, goodfic! there's so much *~*

(Anonymous) 2013-07-15 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
fandom is pretty quick to forget tbh. kpop fandom in particular is always growing with all the new groups that come out that i couldn't keep up tbh. i've stopped writing and reading, but i check in once in a while lol i can't even remember most of the so-called "BNFs" and goodfic writers of yore...

shinee fic had its golden age huhuhu the dormant shinee stan in me hopes for a renaissance

(Anonymous) 2013-07-15 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
lol yeah, kfic fandom is quite different now than how it used to be! I guess that's the thing, I'm a slow writer, and I'm not in fandom for any of these new groups. I don't mind, I just get very down about my writing at times though ;;
I've just gotten back into actively writing and reading again after a long break, and a lot has changed over that time! I don't even know where any of the bnfs I used to know might have gone too now.

aw, I wasn't in shinee fandom during it's golden age, so I have a lot of catching up to do! a renaissance would be nice, they just had their big bang, but I don't know how it compares to any in the past!

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-15 07:48 pm (UTC)(link)
tbh i think my fic is pretty good, or at the very least i'm not ashamed of most of what i've posted and would stand by it. but the top tier of writers who i like for their writing alone (windowright, colorfunk, gdgdbaby, qp) is more than just "good" to me, and i definitely would not put myself on that level.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-15 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
i like thinking that most every writer who posts fic in a public sphere knows or, at the very least, thinks that what he/she is posting is good, but i can see how that's idealistic. i know i'd never post something i was ashamed of hahaha

gdgdbaby is classiq

(Anonymous) 2013-07-15 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
i think i write good fic but i wouldn't say i'm a goodfic writer? overall i lean more towards mediocre but i haven't rly pushed myself hard to improve so that isn't a terrible fate.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-16 09:02 am (UTC)(link)
i am not a goodfic writer because i don't have the recognition of a goodfic writer. with that being said, i don't think i'm terrible. i have a lot i need to improve on tho and i think if i keep trying then one day i can be good.

examples of goodfic to me:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/585967
http://archiveofourown.org/works/562365
http://archiveofourown.org/works/480096
http://archiveofourown.org/works/767220

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