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part thirty nine
POSTING THE NAMES AND ADDRESSES OF USERS IS A SERIOUS TOS VIOLATION. PLEASE DON'T DO IT
POSTING THE NAMES AND ADDRESSES OF USERS IS A SERIOUS TOS VIOLATION. PLEASE DON'T DO IT
hijacking your thread but does anyone know if kficollab will be running this year? so torn abt whether i'd like to sign up bec i think i'd be interested to write together with someone and i think it could be stimulating for me, like we could complete each other. but otoh i've never done a writing collab before and idk if it would at all suit me or if i'd click with my partner and idk???
can't do it or you haven't tried? force yourself to start something that you don't expect to do anything with or take a long break from writing and see if that will help
just thought i'd try to start something? idk feel free to add your two cents.
the premise to this fic was interesting but it definitely felt rushed. the original reason why sunye had been kept inside was never explained, which i suppose might be an interesting choice but this fic felt too bare-bones as it was. considering she'd been afraid of the outside her whole life, i sincerely doubt she'd decide to go outside after meeting donghae three times.
had good potential, but it felt like a lot of important stuff was missing. a decently enjoyable read nonetheless.
had good potential, but it felt like a lot of important stuff was missing. a decently enjoyable read nonetheless.
i don't like saying "i can't" but honestly i try that all the time, i start new things or just write little sentences or go by whims without pressure or i try to carefully plan out things but nothing ever goes anywhere. i've been thinking of taking a break but it seems to be impossible for me to stop thinking about writing or wanting to write lol u___u
maybe you should try a collab with someone that could be different and it would force you to not have everything planned out
as someone who isn't familiar with exo, i have to say i didn't get much about either character's personalities from this, but it was really well written and i'm sure any exo fan would adore it. i checked out the original story and i enjoy a lot of the remixer's changes. the plot feels more fleshed out, and the jumps in time are interesting.
overall, really good though it feels, like #1, to be a little bit rushed in parts.
overall, really good though it feels, like #1, to be a little bit rushed in parts.
yeah same. ik some people are Not Impressed w the mods after the whole minibang/bigbang debacle, but i did enjoy it last year. also i can never decide what to request.
ironic bec i made the ficcollab comment below, and i do think i could benefit from having a partner that could push me out of.. my own brain's limitations, so to speak. but it isn't that i need to have everything planned out, it's simply that i won't be able to think of what to write. even when i plan i take forever to think of things and i still can't plan it out in detail.
do we get to choose our partners? or are we randomly assigned one?
i just finished it and ia with your comment. i do follow exo and so i thought the characterization was nicely subtle, but maybe too subtle for people who don't "know" them. the ending seemed kind of "oh, that's it?" although i did really like how it was written. but to me it doesn't feel that related to the original except for the theme of leaving and coming back (and the pairing ofc). this isn't a bad thing, just an observation
da last year if you knew who you wanted to work with you could request to be paired up and the mod was good about honoring requests. but if you didn't have someone in mind it was random assignment
aww anon you're plight is making me want to help you out somehow :c if you want to do something together not seriously let me know...i'm familar with a lot of nugu fandoms
GOD SAME HERE idk if it's just the way my brain works but i can't just write off the top of my head. i'd get one sentence in and be unable to go from there. free writing is my nightmare .
I kind of want to but I have no idea what I'd want and I've never done a ss exchange before so idk
I think not knowing why she was kept inside kind of makes sense since it was told from her pov but I also kind of agree with you that it left me wanting a bit more out of it. nothing about anyone is explained so I didn't feel much of an impact even when it got to more emotional parts. I thought the simplicity of the narrative though, the prose felt clean and kind of...pure, I guess? it worked well with sunye in the fic.
maybe it is, maybe it isn't. i'm sure that most idols have parts of idolhood that they enjoy, but i also think that they find a lot of it shitty. either way i'm just happy that you're optimistic abt it and i sort of wish i could be more optimistic as well, lets leave it at that lol
i've seen a lot of people say that they don't see the point in fic if you don't care about characterisation, and frankly i can totally see where you're coming from with it but just because you don't see a point doesn't mean others don't? to me there are great points about writing fic. maybe i "should" write origfic instead but i'm not comfortable with that; fic gives me an arena to practice writing in, with an audience and people to give me crit, and characters (even if just a name and a face (and some basic personality features)) that i feel attached to (and also the readers have an emotional connection to. you could see it as cheating or as training wheels idk lol) and feel comfortable and enjoy writing about. i would much rather read an interesting fic with "questionable" characterisation than a boring fic with "perfect" characterisation. how is that even achieved? the notion that there is "good" or "bad" characterisation sounds to me pretty elitist and implies that "my way is the only and correct way of seeing these ppl". i'm sorry i'm rambling too but i feel like i've had people pushing these opinions into my (and ig others) face(s) to the point where i feel that this is such an ugly opinion that it shouldn't even be spoken of and idk i've been carrying around some pent up stuff ig. then again by the end of the day it's my own fault for caring so much abt what others say, when i could just do my own thing.
re: fanon characterisation. while i sort of dislike dumb slutty kai and all the other stereotypes and can get rly tired of them, i... can't just say that these people are "wrong" in any way. maybe that's honestly how they percieve their idols and it feels so conceited to say that my view is better just bec i've "studied them deeper" or whatever. ia that "we don't know them" can be used as a cop-out but i still think it's a fundamental thing is this discussion. for instance, say i think that oppar A is putting up much of a facade and that he's very different behind the scenes. i have no evidence to prove this, other than a vague feeling of mine. but a person disagreeing with me, saying that oppar A is just the way he appears to be... doesn't have any proof either, right? i'm not sure where i'm going with this nor if i'm making sense but basically my view is that whatever opinions we have abt an oppar's personality is bottom line a headcanon, and we can't claim it to be much more than that. and everybody can have different headcanons and look at different parts of a persons personality and also focus on different parts - heck, i even do this myself. i have like 5 different headcanons for every oppar, like he could be like this or could be like this, and in this specific situation he could be like this. and the real-life oppar is prob a mix of all these versions, or maybe nothing like it, but i enjoy being able to pick him apart a little and focus on different things at different occasions, at different situations. maybe i let him lean in a direction that suits the tone and atmosphere of my story. by the end of the day you just have to find authors with the same headcanon as yourself who portrays the oppars in ways you think is accurate or enjoy. or are you saying the headcanon concept isn't like this? srs question.
re: aus, ita that a character brought up as a girl should act like a girl etc. but isn't this what i'm talking abt, the universe affects the character? and you can still try to keep the most fundamental parts of the personality, just see how they would have been shaped by what the person has been through. like a cheerful person in a universe where they have gone through lots of shit might not always be so cheerful. or they could be, but they don't have to be. etc etc. i just... sometimes feel forced to spend a lot of time with getting characterisation "right" when there's other things i wish to focus on and whether someone is in or out of character depends on who you're asking anyway lol. idk ofc it's a lot about different strokes and maybe we'll just have to agree to disagree abt this.
i've seen a lot of people say that they don't see the point in fic if you don't care about characterisation, and frankly i can totally see where you're coming from with it but just because you don't see a point doesn't mean others don't? to me there are great points about writing fic. maybe i "should" write origfic instead but i'm not comfortable with that; fic gives me an arena to practice writing in, with an audience and people to give me crit, and characters (even if just a name and a face (and some basic personality features)) that i feel attached to (and also the readers have an emotional connection to. you could see it as cheating or as training wheels idk lol) and feel comfortable and enjoy writing about. i would much rather read an interesting fic with "questionable" characterisation than a boring fic with "perfect" characterisation. how is that even achieved? the notion that there is "good" or "bad" characterisation sounds to me pretty elitist and implies that "my way is the only and correct way of seeing these ppl". i'm sorry i'm rambling too but i feel like i've had people pushing these opinions into my (and ig others) face(s) to the point where i feel that this is such an ugly opinion that it shouldn't even be spoken of and idk i've been carrying around some pent up stuff ig. then again by the end of the day it's my own fault for caring so much abt what others say, when i could just do my own thing.
re: fanon characterisation. while i sort of dislike dumb slutty kai and all the other stereotypes and can get rly tired of them, i... can't just say that these people are "wrong" in any way. maybe that's honestly how they percieve their idols and it feels so conceited to say that my view is better just bec i've "studied them deeper" or whatever. ia that "we don't know them" can be used as a cop-out but i still think it's a fundamental thing is this discussion. for instance, say i think that oppar A is putting up much of a facade and that he's very different behind the scenes. i have no evidence to prove this, other than a vague feeling of mine. but a person disagreeing with me, saying that oppar A is just the way he appears to be... doesn't have any proof either, right? i'm not sure where i'm going with this nor if i'm making sense but basically my view is that whatever opinions we have abt an oppar's personality is bottom line a headcanon, and we can't claim it to be much more than that. and everybody can have different headcanons and look at different parts of a persons personality and also focus on different parts - heck, i even do this myself. i have like 5 different headcanons for every oppar, like he could be like this or could be like this, and in this specific situation he could be like this. and the real-life oppar is prob a mix of all these versions, or maybe nothing like it, but i enjoy being able to pick him apart a little and focus on different things at different occasions, at different situations. maybe i let him lean in a direction that suits the tone and atmosphere of my story. by the end of the day you just have to find authors with the same headcanon as yourself who portrays the oppars in ways you think is accurate or enjoy. or are you saying the headcanon concept isn't like this? srs question.
re: aus, ita that a character brought up as a girl should act like a girl etc. but isn't this what i'm talking abt, the universe affects the character? and you can still try to keep the most fundamental parts of the personality, just see how they would have been shaped by what the person has been through. like a cheerful person in a universe where they have gone through lots of shit might not always be so cheerful. or they could be, but they don't have to be. etc etc. i just... sometimes feel forced to spend a lot of time with getting characterisation "right" when there's other things i wish to focus on and whether someone is in or out of character depends on who you're asking anyway lol. idk ofc it's a lot about different strokes and maybe we'll just have to agree to disagree abt this.
ty anon it's good to hear i'm not alone. ita, i feel that most idols carry a certain degree of facade, that ofc prob contains some of their actual personality but i think also a lot of fabricated stuff, or like some oppars/unnirs where i feel that they up a lot of things for the audience, not saying that they fake it bec it's already there but they overdo it a bit. and you never know what's real and what's not? and regardless, people interpret things so differently that sometimes i'm like "..do we stan the same person?" lmao. in canon fic you can use these fabricated things bec, since they're doing it it's part of reality and who they are, to a certain degree, but they would probably not act that way if they were a civilian, so to speak. either way it doesn't matter imo, if i feel that i see something behind that facade and speculate that they act this or that way behind the scenes, then why can't i write them like that if i feel like it, you know.
what I read probably tells me more about the writer than the subject and I'm cool with that. I might prefer it when authors characterise someone a certain way, but ultimately that's only because it either falls close to my own preferred headcanon or I just find it that fascinating. basically lol. i often like it when ppl do different takes on people, like straying from the stereotypical/fanon portrayals. but basically i just like it when ppl write characters the way i see them or like to see them lol.
what I read probably tells me more about the writer than the subject and I'm cool with that. I might prefer it when authors characterise someone a certain way, but ultimately that's only because it either falls close to my own preferred headcanon or I just find it that fascinating. basically lol. i often like it when ppl do different takes on people, like straying from the stereotypical/fanon portrayals. but basically i just like it when ppl write characters the way i see them or like to see them lol.
i technically don't mind 1000 words of foreplay, it's the long drawn-out action-heavy fucking that i'm not into, like the whole fingering-fucking-cumshot shebang that so often just comes out mechanical. i love fics that are centered on a physical (and psychological) relationship and all over there's mentions of touching and kissing and sex and brief descriptions of them that if anything leave me unsatisfied and wanting more than just overstimulated and tired of it lol. i also like it when it's realistic and a bit naked, so to speak, romance in movies so often reeks of hollywood and like, waking up with perfect make up and lbr when i go to watch an action movie i'm in it for the action, not to see whether the straight white manly-man hooks up with the straight white girl (with perfect make up).
yes yes yes and also other ways to describe porn? aside from the present tense, very psysical "cock goes there and then cock goes there" kind of porn. like i've been wanting to try to write porn that doesn't read like porn? like you won't know they're having sex until the end or something. but mainly just strange sex in strange places and like "WELL i'll let oppars fuck IN THE STONE AGE bec REASONS" or whatever.
this sounds rly interesting anon! do you want to give an example of what kind of au you write? it's sort of what i've been trying to do as well. i rly enjoy thinking of uncommon expressions but tbh i've sort of been overdoing it so i'm more aiming for a cleaner and simpler prose now, but that's sort of a challenge in itself lol. i'm not sure what perfect prose is like?? but it sounds pretty boring
yes yes yes and also other ways to describe porn? aside from the present tense, very psysical "cock goes there and then cock goes there" kind of porn. like i've been wanting to try to write porn that doesn't read like porn? like you won't know they're having sex until the end or something. but mainly just strange sex in strange places and like "WELL i'll let oppars fuck IN THE STONE AGE bec REASONS" or whatever.
this sounds rly interesting anon! do you want to give an example of what kind of au you write? it's sort of what i've been trying to do as well. i rly enjoy thinking of uncommon expressions but tbh i've sort of been overdoing it so i'm more aiming for a cleaner and simpler prose now, but that's sort of a challenge in itself lol. i'm not sure what perfect prose is like?? but it sounds pretty boring
basically lol. i just like picturing their relationship and like lying around in that feeling and for that pm just stating that they fuck or that they kiss is often enough.
i would take pride in that research, anon. and get a sock and post all your weird porn.
i would take pride in that research, anon. and get a sock and post all your weird porn.
i'm not a very kinky person (..i think? lol) and to me it's not about bdsm or water sports or the likes. i think it can be a lot about the setting, or the relationship of the characters, or the way you describe it, more than the actual act. tho ofc the act could also be something unusual. (ugh intercrural is one of my absolute favs. i think it's starting to get mainstream but i don't mind the slightest bec more non-penetrative sex for me \o/)
speaking of intercrural there should be ancient greece au and (british-ish) boarding school au intercrural bec of the historical aspects of it unf (yes i wiki'd)
you made me want a harry potter au with intercrural. sob
So tempted to do this but at the same time I think I make my person sad with how bad of fic I write so its better not to. But I want a fic. Oh the choices!!
Also wtf its August....how are signups already starting?!
Also wtf its August....how are signups already starting?!
so, when you're trying to fill a prompt and you can think of like 6 different stories to write for it...what do you do?
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