kficanon ([personal profile] kficanon) wrote2012-10-27 04:08 pm

part twenty five



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(Anonymous) 2012-10-31 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
your opinions do not exist within a vacuum

(Anonymous) 2012-10-31 05:15 am (UTC)(link)
yes and?

(Anonymous) 2012-10-31 05:16 am (UTC)(link)
so i'm just saying that sometimes gender comparisons are not unfounded and some popular girl constantly getting called out for being boring or ugly starts to get a wee bit suspiciously sexist

(Anonymous) 2012-10-31 05:18 am (UTC)(link)
i'm not part of the suzy discussion but popular guy groups are always being called out as well. i think suzy is gorgeous but there are other idols with faces i cannot stand looking at and vice versa with guys

i still think a lot of these anons who jump on others calling a female idol ugly hypocritical because no one cares when it comes up with guys

(Anonymous) 2012-10-31 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
idgaf if people call guys ugly because they're treated the same way by the media and popular culture.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-31 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
um what. treated in what way?

(Anonymous) 2012-10-31 05:23 am (UTC)(link)
lol i misplaced my correction but i meant they're not treated in the same way by popular culture. it's a little different in an entertainment industry where looks are obviously important but we put a lot less pressure on men's appearances and criticize them less and there's a much wider range of acceptable looks.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-31 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
we're all shaped by our environment and the media and it's not going to stop overnight. and yeah, ia that there are disgustingly unfair standards about women's beauty standards compared to men but it doesn't give people the right to call out others who don't like a certain female idol's looks to use this argument. that's what irks me the most

(Anonymous) 2012-10-31 05:29 am (UTC)(link)
it's just a kneejerk reaction because despite what some people seem to ignore this shit does get posted a lot and it's frustrating to see someone constantly hate on popular girls just because they're popular.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-31 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
anon, i like that we're having a level-headed conversation but i really have to disagree with that. i mean of course people hate for a variety of reasons but at the same time, people hate male idols just because they're popular or ugly too (my bias that a lot). and ia with you that it's stupid people hate on girl groups just because they're popular and/or are girls, but at the same time, you can't ignore the fact people hate on guy groups for these exact reasons too

(Anonymous) 2012-10-31 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
da but ia with your last sentence

(Anonymous) 2012-10-31 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
i just don't like the opinion that when anons say a female idol is ugly, they're against all girls etc. i just don't like certain faces and gender has absolutely nothing to do with it. i don't hate x female idol's face because she is female, just like because i hate y male idol's face, it's not because he's a male

it's just their face or attitude

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(Anonymous) 2012-10-31 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
they're not. way to ruin your own point, self, lol.