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Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

ahhhhhhhhh, that's a really good way of articulating it!

this is just my personal experience, but even though i've only ever been attracted to women and, offline, spent most of my time harboring crushes on different girls and writing stories with female main characters, i was still in male- and slash-centric fandoms pretty consistently for five years (most of my fandom life, more or less). it took me stumbling upon girl groups in 2010 and letting that fannish interest in them consume me that drove me away from male- and slash-centric fandoms, and to be honest, even if the fic output is low and there's a lot of on-meme wank, i'm still happier here than i ever was in those prior fandoms. /o\ i think, if female fandomers just found that one female-centric fandom that they're genuinely interested in, things would feel more balanced.

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

ahahah, i have sort of the opposite experience of you! i've never been interested in men and was always a het/femslash fan for my entire fannish life until two years ago, when i landed in a fandom where i had an m/m otp. this is going to sound dumb, but i gave myself a lot of grief over having a slash ship even though i knew my individual taste didn't have a huge connection to my politics.

for me, it's difficult because i stan for two or three boy groups, but many many more girl groups. idk how to describe my involvement except that my interest in girl groups is more spread out, and so i generally know less about them? i'd say the girl group i'm most invested in has quite a few fans on meme though, so i guess i should put my money where my mouth is and start talking about them more. :\ (ah i suck at meta though. my tendency is toward the exclamation points and over the top declarations of love, not nuanced character studies ;;)

there's also that magic switch, and the point where it gets flipped is amorphous and ever-changing, but it's the point where i stop seeing something as sexy and start seeing it as "well, i am into it but this is not for me, this is directed at men and my enjoyment of it is negligible." it doesn't happen as much in kpop because the sex female idols are selling is different than what i see in day-to-day life, but it is something always in the back of my mind. it's such a boner killer, and it's totally one of the reasons i have difficulty watching lesbian porn.

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

aw, no, that's not dumb! :( i hope you didn't give yourself too much grief, though.

that seems to be the issue with a lot of people -- they're fans of more girl groups than guy groups, but because the guy groups have more information readily available and your interest in them is more concentrated, they end up being one's "main" group. you don't need to feel pressured to discuss more on meme, but out of curiosity, what is your main girl group?

that's not a magic switch, unfortunately, that's just awareness of the male gaze. :\ i have that problem, too (and i only watch lesbian porn if the girls seem like they're genuinely having a good time).

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

my main girl group is f(x), sooo it's not like they're doing a lot (sob), but there's usually something or other going on. victoria looked so gorgeous accepting her award. i might have teared up, don't tell anyone.

it's nice to hear someone else with the same point of view. i always feel like a debbie downer to the extreme whenever i point out how male gazey things are, and to some degree i am envious of those who can turn off that part of their brain when they want . it's like someone gave me contacts that make the world seem shittier, but i can't manage to get them out of my eyes. (which isn't to say queer women should feel guilty over liking these things or not like these things, just that i think it's important to recognize where these depictions come from and what their aims are)