sorry this is prob an odd question. i was just wondering how much value do anons put on feedback on your writing by non-writer friends? (as they are biased since they are your friends) I mean specifically friends who don't really know how to give constructive critiques and just say positive things like that they think you are good?
sometimes i think it's useful especially if those friends also like to read. having stuff critiqued by other writers can also be good but also having your stuff critiqued by the receiving end of the dynamic is helpful.
as for them giving only positive things, it could be that they do think you're really good but don't know how to give further input? normally what i do is to set aside time with them and ask structured questions. ("did you like my characters? was my plot too weird, as in not-believable?" etc.) maybe it's not that they don't have more to say, but that they don't have the mindset on how to say it.
as someone who reads a lot more than i write, i personally value what readers have to say differently from what my writer friends have to say. none are better than the other, but it's just two different sets of opinions to me, if that makes sense? like all people read things differently as well and i know that the take away for each person of the same fic is gonna be different, especially if you're more of a reader than a writer.
for me as a reader i feel like it's not ever my place to give crit unless specifically asked for. i'm not particularly picky about fic either, and for me i personally will try to see the best in fic if i've chosen to read it. what i'm trying to say is that sometimes your friends who are there to read are there to read and read alone, so while reading con/crit might not be the first thing on their minds. i think people who read fic and have a positive reaction to it is a good thing though, even if you're not getting the kind of constructive feedback you might want, some people just don't think about that, and i think the confidence boost is always a good thing!
i have my non-writer friend beta my stuff a lot and ofc she isn't really picking up on like, comma usage or idk split infinitives (though idt even my grammar beta is that anal) but i value her feedback on what sounds good to her as a reader. i think she is better at picking up on whether or not the tone of something is right because she is looking at the bigger picture instead of on a sentence by sentence level. so i think even if she is just saying uncritical stuff, it still helps but a healthy dose of nitpicking is also important.
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(Anonymous) 2014-12-26 12:57 pm (UTC)(link)as for them giving only positive things, it could be that they do think you're really good but don't know how to give further input? normally what i do is to set aside time with them and ask structured questions. ("did you like my characters? was my plot too weird, as in not-believable?" etc.) maybe it's not that they don't have more to say, but that they don't have the mindset on how to say it.
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(Anonymous) 2014-12-26 04:02 pm (UTC)(link)for me as a reader i feel like it's not ever my place to give crit unless specifically asked for. i'm not particularly picky about fic either, and for me i personally will try to see the best in fic if i've chosen to read it. what i'm trying to say is that sometimes your friends who are there to read are there to read and read alone, so while reading con/crit might not be the first thing on their minds. i think people who read fic and have a positive reaction to it is a good thing though, even if you're not getting the kind of constructive feedback you might want, some people just don't think about that, and i think the confidence boost is always a good thing!
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