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part thirty nine
POSTING THE NAMES AND ADDRESSES OF USERS IS A SERIOUS TOS VIOLATION. PLEASE DON'T DO IT
POSTING THE NAMES AND ADDRESSES OF USERS IS A SERIOUS TOS VIOLATION. PLEASE DON'T DO IT
i'm jealous, breaking 2k is a struggle nevermind 20
i'm going to write an epic badlongfic for my beloved nugus.
Ive been feeling conflicted about writing rpf ever since myungsoo had that scandal. I would feel uncomfortable if I were to be straight and famous (with multiple rumored ex-partners) and then go online to see people pair me up with my band mates. As a writer, I feel bad about doing this, but not too bad to stop writing since I really love writing infinite /o\ and this is all make believe anyway
What was the point I was trying to make |D
What was the point I was trying to make |D
sometimes i think the opposite, like wouldn't it be weird if our fics were really accurate? the fact that he's not really dating his band mates adds another layer to the make believe aspect imo.
+1 i would feel way weirder writing fic abt myungsoo and that girl he's rumored to date
i personally do not give one fuck if my queer writing bothers straight people.
+1, this is why i don't write (slash) about idols i think are actually gay... writing stories that might actually have some basis in reality feels too invasive to me.
how do you feel about straight ppl writing queer fic?
da same about the not caring what straight people think about my writing part but lately the real person part bothers me? rpf in general makes me uncomfortable these days and idk why
da i have no problem with that? it's the attitude of oh my god it must be the worst thing ever to be shipped with someone if you're straight that bothers me. awkward, maybe, but i don't rly see the point in worrying about how it affects them
but as far as straight people writing slash or femslash? perfectly fine, as long as it doesn't get into fetishizing queer ppl
but as far as straight people writing slash or femslash? perfectly fine, as long as it doesn't get into fetishizing queer ppl
it's been bothering me more and more these days tbh. i don't care about the straight ppl who find gay sex hot and write porn about it, and to an extent i understand the straight girls who write slash because it's less frightening or easier to understand or whatever, but it's when straight people write queer narratives that i start to feel uncomfortable. stories about coming out, homophobia, discovering sexuality, etc... it just feels like the authors are taking the very real suffering of queer people and treating it like a plaything. our stories are ours, they're not there for straight people to... use like that, you know? idk. it's hard to describe but it does bother me on some level.
okay that does bother me a lot
(why i don't like cuk's fic, though i know nothing about her personal life, just because they read like a straight person's idea of homophobia)
(why i don't like cuk's fic, though i know nothing about her personal life, just because they read like a straight person's idea of homophobia)
i don't really agree with your understanding about why straight people write slash fic, but i do see the problems that can happen if you write about the more emotional issues without being tied to them yourself. unless you've had experience in these or can research well, it's not going to come across meaningfully
+1, i do see previous anon's point about possible fetishization but i just don't think that's the purpose that most slash fic written by straight people is trying to fulfill, even subconsciously.
i mean this leads into more discussion about stuff like "why do people even write fic at all??? why slash??? why is this so huge in fandom, and fandom in particular?"
theory, make of it what you will: people write slash fic bc 1) it's easy to fall into (esp in kpop, where you have primarily single-sex groups) 2) it serves as a placeholder or blank for different types of individual exploration of identity, not just sexual orientation-wise (which is where i can see the point about "treating it like a plaything" coming in, but i should hope most people are not out to belittle your experiences because that would be awful). there are lots of other reasons, sure, and these are by no means the only and primary reasons for people writing slash fic, but it's an attempt to build off of above anon's point and respond to previous anon's comment.
i hope this addressed the current discussion correctly, or else i'm missing the point completely lol.
i mean this leads into more discussion about stuff like "why do people even write fic at all??? why slash??? why is this so huge in fandom, and fandom in particular?"
theory, make of it what you will: people write slash fic bc 1) it's easy to fall into (esp in kpop, where you have primarily single-sex groups) 2) it serves as a placeholder or blank for different types of individual exploration of identity, not just sexual orientation-wise (which is where i can see the point about "treating it like a plaything" coming in, but i should hope most people are not out to belittle your experiences because that would be awful). there are lots of other reasons, sure, and these are by no means the only and primary reasons for people writing slash fic, but it's an attempt to build off of above anon's point and respond to previous anon's comment.
i hope this addressed the current discussion correctly, or else i'm missing the point completely lol.
i'm straight (you can stop reading after that lol) and for whatever reason i feel EXTREMELY uncomfortable writing queer narratives and/or context-free gay sex as original fiction but barely even think about it with fanfic. maybe because for me the rpf element already makes it one step removed from possibility? that said i've had ideas for coming out-type fic before but have more or less abandoned them for the reasons you say. it's not like i'm dying to tell these stories or think they're fun or cute, it's just the kind of story that developed when i was plotting (i didn't sit down and go "i want to write about dealing with homophobia!") but i'd much rather not write it than get it wrong.
i'm this anon: http://kficanon.dreamwidth.org/13524.html?thread=49942228#cmt49942228
i think straight people write slash because what you said about exploration of identity. just thinking back to, well, when i was 100% straight (laughs pitifully), i think queer narratives appealed to me because they were different. it was rejecting the heteronormative media around me in favor of something i didn't get to see unless i sought it out. i know some people are very quick to jump on "slash is misogynistic!" and i think that sometimes, for some people, it can be? but i hardly think most of the people who write kpop fic are coming at it from a pov of "better oppar be gay than touch another girl", especially when groups are, like you said, single sex and crossovers require a knowledge of two groups which not everyone does.
as far as fetishizing go, i have seen it on few times on tumblr like "i hope my son is gay i will tell him about johnlock!!!!" or, like, wanting a gay best friend or irl gay friends or just using gay men as props. which i don't think is as common as some people would argue.
i think straight people write slash because what you said about exploration of identity. just thinking back to, well, when i was 100% straight (laughs pitifully), i think queer narratives appealed to me because they were different. it was rejecting the heteronormative media around me in favor of something i didn't get to see unless i sought it out. i know some people are very quick to jump on "slash is misogynistic!" and i think that sometimes, for some people, it can be? but i hardly think most of the people who write kpop fic are coming at it from a pov of "better oppar be gay than touch another girl", especially when groups are, like you said, single sex and crossovers require a knowledge of two groups which not everyone does.
as far as fetishizing go, i have seen it on few times on tumblr like "i hope my son is gay i will tell him about johnlock!!!!" or, like, wanting a gay best friend or irl gay friends or just using gay men as props. which i don't think is as common as some people would argue.
original anon here. i meant to say that i felt weird if i wrote a het pairing when the people involved are not into the opposite sex.
i've been feeling meh about writing rpf fanfiction. i mean i've heard all the arguments before, but somehow the thought of having my groups find out about my fics (not that i'm even bnf enough to be that prominent) is just e__e ig my argument could be a subset of the whole real life/fandom debacle and fanfics are a healthy way to explore sexuality etc. etc., but knowing, and being made to read fanfics of yourself is just weird idk
i've been feeling meh about writing rpf fanfiction. i mean i've heard all the arguments before, but somehow the thought of having my groups find out about my fics (not that i'm even bnf enough to be that prominent) is just e__e ig my argument could be a subset of the whole real life/fandom debacle and fanfics are a healthy way to explore sexuality etc. etc., but knowing, and being made to read fanfics of yourself is just weird idk
wow this meme is still alive. just popping in to ask a question! do team a/team b have any fic yet?
i'm only like eek if i want to write about an idol who understands english bc the language barrier makes it less weird for me. then again, at the same time fanfiction is so huge nowadays that if you're young and famous you've probably heard of it/come in contact with it before (whether they've read it or not). therefore to me it's kind of like, well, it's just something that is bound to happen. maybe they wouldn't like it one bit and be disgusted, but as long as they accept it's something that's going to happen in word or in someone's mind.
that being said if i was famous i'd probably read my own fanfic like a weirdo...but that might be because i've been reading fanfic for over ten years now
that being said if i was famous i'd probably read my own fanfic like a weirdo...but that might be because i've been reading fanfic for over ten years now
not here, but i would love to read some, anon ;_____;
not yet as far as i know, but there is winnerfic @ lj!! a comm someone set up, it's still sadly empty of fic though
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