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part thirty nine
POSTING THE NAMES AND ADDRESSES OF USERS IS A SERIOUS TOS VIOLATION. PLEASE DON'T DO IT
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conflict and plot are basically the same thing though. definition of a story is pretty much "characters in conflict." the problem is that people are programmed to think about conflict in terms of external active things like war, murder, bombs going off or whatever, but conflict can easily be internal too.
for a fic about dudes becoming more than friends there are many possible conflicts the author could consider: conflict because they are in denial, unsure about their sexuality and/or unwilling to risk the friendship by taking the next step. there could be a love triangle involved, some mutual misunderstandings. or perhaps one of the dudes moves away and the other one realises what he actually felt and then the conflict/goal could be finding him again.
for a fic about dudes becoming more than friends there are many possible conflicts the author could consider: conflict because they are in denial, unsure about their sexuality and/or unwilling to risk the friendship by taking the next step. there could be a love triangle involved, some mutual misunderstandings. or perhaps one of the dudes moves away and the other one realises what he actually felt and then the conflict/goal could be finding him again.
this is beginning to dawn on me anon, and i totally agree. it is easier to deal with concrete, physical obstacles, like war as anon said, than the internal world. like i find myself wanting to have a lot of dialogue in my fic and i'm sitting here all ??? bec ihni what they're gonna talk abt sobs. i feel like i basically have to go through their lives and situation and find out what they could be thinking about. which is tiringggg.
yet i feel that this sort of introspective fic is one of the most common kinds so it's like, if so many other ppl can do it, why can't i. and i'm thinking that it's a genre that you can fuck around with a bit, halfass as to say, because they don't actually have to mentally transform and discover themselves, they basically just have to get together. am i making sense rn lol? ig what i meant with my comment is that i want give up my desire to write something "good" and just go full-out with the cliches that come with this kind of fic, even though it's been written 2355 times before. (or maybe i am not being fair to this genre!!)
yet i feel that this sort of introspective fic is one of the most common kinds so it's like, if so many other ppl can do it, why can't i. and i'm thinking that it's a genre that you can fuck around with a bit, halfass as to say, because they don't actually have to mentally transform and discover themselves, they basically just have to get together. am i making sense rn lol? ig what i meant with my comment is that i want give up my desire to write something "good" and just go full-out with the cliches that come with this kind of fic, even though it's been written 2355 times before. (or maybe i am not being fair to this genre!!)
a story about two people getting together is boring as hell. for crying out loud at least put some character development in there.
of course conflict can be internal! what i'm saying is that internal conflicts are often more difficult to define, more difficult to convey, and more difficult for readers (and writers) to identify with, and therefore they are also are more difficult to write.
on the contrary! internal conflicts are far more easy for readers and writers to identify with. we all know stuff like jealously, miscommunications, identity crisis, fear of commitment...
but how many of us can identify with being a secret agent or fighting aliens? often its because of the additional internal conflicts that we can identify with the characters in these kinds of stories.
this is random but i just finished watching the nostalgia critic talk about zombie movies, and he made the point that what's actually compelling in these stories is not the zombies chasing everyone (the external conflict), but the way the characters are pushed to their limits, and forced to adapt to a post apocalyptic world (internal conflict).
but how many of us can identify with being a secret agent or fighting aliens? often its because of the additional internal conflicts that we can identify with the characters in these kinds of stories.
this is random but i just finished watching the nostalgia critic talk about zombie movies, and he made the point that what's actually compelling in these stories is not the zombies chasing everyone (the external conflict), but the way the characters are pushed to their limits, and forced to adapt to a post apocalyptic world (internal conflict).
yes yes of course, i completely agree, but what i'm trying to say is that it's easier to achieve all that when you have a strong external conflict to work with/around.
lol good we agree i can go to bed now. you're right, i think op just needs some kind of external conflict to structure their relationship fic around. it could just be a simple conflict though.
but anon what if character development occurs while they try to get together
those two things are not mutually exclusive...
what fic would you like to read most right now if it existed?
a fic inspired in some way by romance of the three kingdoms. i would read this for literally any fandom.
in one way i agree with you anon, and in another way i don't. there's soooo many fics out there without character development that serve their purpose just fine. if i want to write a story with two dudes glancing at each other for a while before hooking up, then i'm sure at least someone would enjoy reading it. it's basically extended pwp lol
sporadic in terms of genre and subject matter i just sort of write whatever type of thing i want to so most of it can't be connected together besides my love for romance and comedy
and porn
what happens to me is that i always write an opening and them get a couple thousand words then look back and i'm like well, that was a really stupid opening there is no hooks and no conflict for the character or reader to really care about the story. and then i go rewrite the opening
the fic i'm working on rn needs a new opening. i just have to decide what. the central conflict of the story is about the main character finding a new place to belong with a new group of people. so it's like man vs himself.
i think i'm going to try and capitalize on his lonliness or something
but any other type of ideas would help me out! and hey you might just see it in the fic /o/ but i'll never tell hehe
and porn
what happens to me is that i always write an opening and them get a couple thousand words then look back and i'm like well, that was a really stupid opening there is no hooks and no conflict for the character or reader to really care about the story. and then i go rewrite the opening
the fic i'm working on rn needs a new opening. i just have to decide what. the central conflict of the story is about the main character finding a new place to belong with a new group of people. so it's like man vs himself.
i think i'm going to try and capitalize on his lonliness or something
but any other type of ideas would help me out! and hey you might just see it in the fic /o/ but i'll never tell hehe
a fic where a character falls down a cliff hiking, and ends up falling thru a hole in reality and slips into the other world that exists over top of our world...the world where demons and fairies and magical creatures exist and we just can't see them....there's some time of magical overlap going on like magic communities exist over top of humans but the human world can be accessed for those...with that ability
blah blah character's passed out and is taken by 2nd main character to their little shrine in the middle of the forest. but they have to keep character secret bc humans aren't allowed in the other world
and then the rest of it involves hiding the human from discovery and trying to find a way to bring them back to human realm. and for giggles how about there's some political dissent going on in magic realm to make it more difficult
okay tl;dr i know i just would like magic/supernatural au
blah blah character's passed out and is taken by 2nd main character to their little shrine in the middle of the forest. but they have to keep character secret bc humans aren't allowed in the other world
and then the rest of it involves hiding the human from discovery and trying to find a way to bring them back to human realm. and for giggles how about there's some political dissent going on in magic realm to make it more difficult
okay tl;dr i know i just would like magic/supernatural au
bodyswap that doesn't revolve around sex/genitals/ust, as if a new body is a novel toy, and instead explores some of the more interesting consequences like differences in sensory perception and the pretense of living as someone you're not [in daily life]
all the historical aus, though i prefer them when they're realistic, i.e. there is a believable reason why a bunch of young koreans are hanging out in the time/place in question. i don't care too much about getting every detail correct, but i like the circumstances to at least make historical sense.
+ 3000
or the water margin. but the huge cast that would be required for either of these would probably require a cross over fic and would probably hurt my brain...which is why i'm not writing it.
or the water margin. but the huge cast that would be required for either of these would probably require a cross over fic and would probably hurt my brain...which is why i'm not writing it.
i'm not a huge fan of war aus just because they tend to be kind of predictable but yeah, sure, why not.
i've also been into historical aus lately! tho only time periods during the 20th ceuntry, not older
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