kficanon ([personal profile] kficanon) wrote2013-06-21 05:04 am

part thirty nine



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(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
i hope anons who stayed in the exchange get their fics done! you can do it

Re: ze:a

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
select impressions of a few members- anyone else please feel free to jump in or correct me

siwan: if he likes you, he likes you a lot. can be spacey, but when he puts his mind to something he's very determined to do it. introvert.

kwanghee: super ultra extrovert. loves and thrives on attention and knows how to keep it, but he's willing to engage others and share his spotlight (at least a little). wants to be remembered.

junyoung: a bit serious but good-natured. takes music and his profession very seriously. extrovert.

heechul: very competitive - loves games and is good at them, and gets very involved. is otherwise unobtrusive, he has a dry sense of humour that comes out easily but doesn't feel the need to be the focus. enjoys being a bit offbeat, likes when he can make people laugh. introvert.

minwoo: everybody's friend. a bit hapless (e.g. when he tried to pull a prank on the others using popsicles but ended up being pranked). introvert.

hyungsik: i once saw a fic where he was described as having a rotten core and even though it was a joke, it stuck with me. he's not evil per se but he's very bold and unafraid of hurting others' feelings. does skinship easily, can complain about it just as easily. his reactions are outward. can eat a lot and doesn't seem to restrict himself. he's not prideful in his family background; he wants to be known for his own work. extrovert.

dongjun: tenacious, gracious. always up for a challenge. not incredibly patient. extrovert.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
oh i wrote meta but didn't realize the page changed /o\ ze:a anon i replied to you!

Re: ze:a

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
and what the heck, here's the other two

kevin: kind of the mom of the group, in spirit if nothing else - always keeps a check on things. feels the need to do well. extrovert.

taehun: i feel like i have seen zero taehun in all the stuff i have watched. he seems gentle? and likes to read? and avoids the spotlight. introvert.

tasty

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 06:08 am (UTC)(link)
links to any shows/interviews/etc would also be great!

Re: nu'est

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 07:07 am (UTC)(link)
i'll talk about aron bc he's one of my faves, and to me, one of the least complex? (not that nu'est come off as very complex to me but yeah). meanwhile, if any anons would like to say something about minhyun, i'd love to read it!

- LA boy who got accepted to nyu for journalism but decided that he'd run off and join pledis
- eldest of the group, 93-line while the other four are 95-line, though he really is the least hyung-like member in the world and seems not to care very much about his seniority but the younger four seem to respect him a lot
- loves everyone, jokes around with baekho a lot, dotes on minhyun and jr, fawns over ren way more than ren probably likes lmao
- he seems extremely chill as a person, though he knows exactly when to turn up the fanservice and absolutely loves doing aegyo and insisting that he's cute (this has just been heightened with how at least one of his instagram hashtags has the word cute in it)
- has an ability to do well in uncomfortable situations and isn't too awkward of a person. i say this based on how hard he tried to ice skate when they all went ice skating during LO^E STORY, and also when he lost at the punching machine/game and was made to dance on the street alone. i think he's comfortable in his own skin and is willing to try most things out.
- probably loves animals and adores his dog: his "little baby dachshund/little baby wiener dog mel" as he said so on after school club

/o\ this is all for now because my brain is failing at thinking of deeper things to say about him at this point of time. i might come back to this later, anon!

ALSO all of nu'est seem remarkably chill about the existence of fanfiction on the internet. they were asked a question on after school club about it and they were just like "i mean yeah if you search our band name on naver it'll come up in the blogs; we all go to school and fight for each others love lol" and aron basically draped himself over ren at that on broadcast so... idk but this was cute to me because they don't take it seriously at all.

f(x)

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 07:48 am (UTC)(link)
in particular krystal

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 07:52 am (UTC)(link)
there won't be much point in starting to post if there's just one fic right? considering how many have seemed to drop out they prob have a bunch of pinch hitters struggling.

Re: ze:a

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 08:02 am (UTC)(link)
i agree mostly. zea oppars are pretty easy to read tbh. although kwanghee being vain and desperate for fame is obviously a stage persona, and i doubt he's like that really, at least not to that extent.

also hyungsik is the last person i would associate with evil lol how can you even say that. i guess he's kinda a dumbass, but he's not affected at all, which is quite rare in idols.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 08:03 am (UTC)(link)
da, but i replied too.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 01:06 pm (UTC)(link)
all i wanted was to write a simple little cliched introspective dudes-becoming-more-than-friends fic how can that possibly be this hard

Re: ze:a

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 01:17 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah i'm pretty embarrassed about my shallow assessment of kwanghee in hindsight. but i do think he enjoys having a persona, and that it's not forced so much as exaggerated or amplified. the enthusiasm is natural.

i didn't say he was evil ;__; he just seems kind of bratty to me but i think he's matured a lot since debuting. i agree that he seems unaffected!

Re: nu'est

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 01:57 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah aron comes across to me as a very average boy, which isn't a bad thing at all but sometimes i'm just like surprised by what a teenage boy he is.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 02:23 pm (UTC)(link)
wow, wonder if they emailed people before the 7th when fics were due? ngl i'd be pissed if i had turned in fic on time

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 02:30 pm (UTC)(link)
lmao i highly doubt that. i'm amused by what a clusterfuck this is but i do feel bad for the people still participating.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)
i feel you, i struggle so much with pacing and characterisation that it's almost routine for me to freak out and ring up my best friend for ideas when i'm at the halfway point.

which fandom are you writing for?

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)
ik i'm so tired of it i'm just like "HMPHH i'm just gonna write this shit and idc how it comes out" BUUUT that's easier said than done as always. could you elaborate on the pacing issues you use to struggle with anon? bec honestly pacing is ??? to me rn, i barely think about it

it's a crossover. which is another level of hard bec i usually find inspiration by looking at videos and gifs of the ship but all i've got to work with here is like 3 barely-there moments u___u

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)
da those who didn't drop out have the patience of saints tbh

after that entire bizarre check in...just nope

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 05:39 pm (UTC)(link)
hmm i like to ramble a lot but some of these rambles hinder the pacing/makes the story too long-winded/story gets too detailed etc. however, some details are relevant later in the story, so i go back and forth in my doc to cut things that are not brought up again and keep those that are. but that's problematic as well especially for long fics, which i've probably spent months on and forgotten most of the details in the middle. i have problems linking scenes together, and my scenes begin abruptly and kind of hinders the slow/fast pace of the entire story.

ahhh well i guess you could always put yourself in their shoes and hypothesize what they would do around each other. (the fic i'm working on now has the same issue and i'm just T__T because the main pair's in the same group dammit)

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
ok so what is the average length of your average fic? bec seeing how my average fic is around 1k i feel that i really should get a bit rambly and build out the plot a bit instead of just making it as simple as possible. i'm afraid to get long winded but a rational part of me says i'm not anywhere near that yet lol. i do like reoccuring details tho, i don't think you should be afraid to include those anon.

yeah that's what i try to do. but like you i have characterization issues, like i have written this person many times and i usually feel comfortable writing them but suddenly i'm all IHNI WHAT THIS PERSON IS LIKE??? and also working in the elements of the au and how that affects the characters and yeaaah it's hard.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 05:54 pm (UTC)(link)
da, but maybe you'd benefit if someone told you some of the person's apparent character traits. everyone is going to characterize differently, but if you're stuck on something it could help to have a different viewpoint. that or rewatch an interview/show to analyze how they react with others

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
my masterlist is quite polarized in terms of wc. if i were to average it out it would be 5k? i'm surprised! being concise is a good thing (also something i'm not good at), but if you want to broaden your ~horizons~ you could always elaborate more, but you'd run into the risk of changing your style u____u yeah, i keep the recurring details and eliminate those that are one-off and don't drive the plot.

i try not to think much about characterisation since it's so subjective. we can never get it completely right, but i just think it should be believable enough. aus are fun! i really enjoy aus because they let me play around with the characters and just take the essential parts of them, and think of how they would react to a particular situation when there're limited options/things work differently.

sidetracking but: one thing i don't understand is how dongwoo is said to be consistently written wrong in fics when it seems pretty fine to me lol. minus the part where the authors do include real faults in his character but i would argue that it's the same for most kpop fics if that were the issue.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
these are good tips anon, ty! i do think i have a good grasp of their characterization tho, i'm just doubting myself when it get srs /o\

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 06:01 pm (UTC)(link)
ia also it helps to pick out a couple of traits that define them so aus won't change them into characters that are barely recognisable

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 06:03 pm (UTC)(link)
same da from below but, i don't see any problem with having a lot of details in your story (unless those details just lead to plot holes). i don't really understand why exactly in kpop fandom simple fics are so highly sought after? maybe it's because it seems a lot of people only like reading 10k and under? idk. i enjoy reading stories with a lot depth to them too. it's the details that can make a story quirky and memorable.
maybe the main character/s hit a lot of snags on the way that branch out in different directions, or perhaps those details are crucial to foreshadowing something later.
i guess if you go on and on about how the character can't stand the color of the blinds then maybe yes, the delete key is your friend.

i read a good line on a blog once that said something along the lines of, "every sentence you write should move the plot forward" if it's something you feel the reader should know that would enhance the plot, put it in \o/ if it's just a side note that isn't important, get rid of it \o/